WikiLeaks
(Leaked) Log Transcripts
Assange’s response to leaks at WikiLeaks (regarding sex-crime allegations against him) and how WikiLeaks spokesman and ‘second-in-command’ Daniel Domscheit-Berg was suspended from the organization for refussing to answer questions:
- Domscheit-Berg: what are the agreements re iraq? i need to understand what the plan is there, and what the constraints are
- Assange: “A person in close contact with other WikiLeaks activists around Europe, who asked for anonymity when discussing a sensitive topic, says that many of them were privately concerned that Assange has continued to spread allegations of dirty tricks and hint at conspiracies against him without justification. Insiders say that some people affiliated with the website are already
- Assange: brainsorming whether ther e might be some way to persuade their front man to step aside, or failing that, even to oust him.”
- Domscheit-Berg: what does that have to do with me?
- Domscheit-Berg: and where is this from?
- Assange: Why do you think it has something to do with you?
- Domscheit-Berg: probably because you alleg this was me
- Domscheit-Berg: but other than that just about nothing
- Domscheit-Berg: as discussed yesterday, this is an ongoing discussion that lots of people have voiced concern about
- Domscheit-Berg: you should face this, rather than trying to shoot at the only person that even cares to be honest about it towards you
- Assange: No, three people have “relayed” your messages already.
- Domscheit-Berg: what messages?
- Domscheit-Berg: and what three people?
- Domscheit-Berg: this issue was discussed
- Domscheit-Berg: [Redacted] and i talked about it, [Redacted] talked about it, [Redacted] talked about it, [Redacted] talked about it
- Domscheit-Berg: lots of people that care for this project have issued that precise suggestion
- Domscheit-Berg: its not me that is spreading this message
- Domscheit-Berg: it would just be the natural step to take
- Domscheit-Berg: and thats what pretty much anyone says
- Assange: Was this you?
- Domscheit-Berg: i didnt speak to newsweek or other media representatives about this
- Domscheit-Berg: i spoke to people we work with and that have an interest in and care about this project
- Domscheit-Berg: and there is nothing wrong about this
- Domscheit-Berg: it’d actually be needed much more, and i can still only recommend you to finally start listening to such concerns
- Domscheit-Berg: especially when one fuckup is happening after the other
- Assange: who, exactly?
- Domscheit-Berg: who exactly what?
- Assange: Who have you spoken to about this issue?
- Domscheit-Berg: i already told you up there
- Assange: those are the only persons?
- Domscheit-Berg: some folks from the club have asked me about it and i have issued that i think this would be the best behaviour
- Domscheit-Berg: thats my opinion
- Domscheit-Berg: and this is also in light to calm down the anger there about what happened in 2007
- Assange: how many people at the club?
- Domscheit-Berg: i dont have to answer to you on this j
- Domscheit-Berg: this debate is fuckin all over the place, and no one understands why you go into denial, especially not the people that know about other incidents
- Assange: How many people at the club?
- Assange: In what venue?
- Domscheit-Berg: in private chats
- Domscheit-Berg: but i will not answer anymore of these questions
- Domscheit-Berg: face the fact that you have not much trust on the inside anymore
- Domscheit-Berg: and that just denying it or putting it away as a campaign against you will not change that it is solely a consequence of your actions
- Domscheit-Berg: and not mine
- Assange: How many people are represented by these private chats? And what are there positions in the CCC?
- Domscheit-Berg: people in the CCC know about 2007
- Domscheit-Berg: go figure
- Domscheit-Berg: i dont even wanna think about how many people that used to respect you told me that they feel disappointed by your reactions
- Domscheit-Berg: i tried to tell you all this, but in all your hybris you dont even care
- Domscheit-Berg: so i dont care anymore either
- Domscheit-Berg: other than that, i had questions first, and i need answers
- Domscheit-Berg: like what agreements we have made
- Domscheit-Berg: i need to understand this so we can continue working
- Domscheit-Berg: you keep stalling other peoples work
- Assange: How many people are represented by these private chats? And what are there positions in the CCC?
- Domscheit-Berg: start answering my questions j
- Assange: This is not a quid-pro-quo.
- Assange: Are you refusing to answer?
- Domscheit-Berg: i have already told you again that i dont see why i should answer to you anymore just because you want answers, but on the same hand refuse to answer anything i am asking
- Domscheit-Berg: i am not a dog you can contain the way you want to j
- Assange: I am investigation a serious security breach. Are you refusing to answer?
- Domscheit-Berg: i am investigating a serious breach in trust. are you refusing to answer?
- Assange: No you are not. I initiated this conversation. Answer the question please.
- Domscheit-Berg: i initiated it
- Domscheit-Berg: if you look above
- Domscheit-Berg: twice already
- Domscheit-Berg: i want to know what the agreements are in respect to iraq
- Assange: That is a procedural issue. Don’t play games with me.
- Domscheit-Berg: stop shooting at messengers
- Assange: I’ve had it.
- Domscheit-Berg: likewise, and that doesnt go just for me
- Assange: If you do not answer the question, you will be removed.
- Domscheit-Berg: you are not anyones king or god
- Domscheit-Berg: and you’re not even fulfilling your role as a leader right now
- Domscheit-Berg: a leader communicates and cultivates trust in himself
- Domscheit-Berg: you are doing the exact opposite
- Domscheit-Berg: you behave like some kind of emporer or slave trader
- Assange: You are suspended for one month, effective immediately.
- Domscheit-Berg: haha
- Domscheit-Berg: right
- Domscheit-Berg: because of what?
- Domscheit-Berg: and who even says that?
- Domscheit-Berg: you? another adhoc decision?
- Assange: If you wish to appeal, you will be heard on Tuesday.
When this decission was questionned by WikiLeaks volunteer Herbert Snorrason, Assange responded:
“I am the heart and soul of this organization, its founder, philosopher, spokesperson, original coder, organizer, financier and all the rest, If you have a problem with me, piss off.”
Other Leaked Wikileaks Info
- Emails leaked at cryptome.org - Leaked discussions surrounding the founding and setup of Wikileaks.
- Wikileaks Insiders Messages - Other leaks from WikiLeaks insiders.
Some Myths Debunked
Much partial and misleading information has been circulating and is often repeated by some people without question:
- “Assange’s Australian passport confiscated by Australian authorities”: Not true, it was taken for 15 minutes to examine considerable wear-and-tear: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1371241
- When in Jail in the UK, Assange was not held incommunicado against his will, he was held in isolation at his own request (supposedly because ‘concerns about his safety’).
External Articles
- Unpublished Iraq War Logs Trigger Internal WikiLeaks Revolt
- Is WikiLeaks Too Full of Itself?
- Censorship at WikiLeaks event.
- WikiLeaks spokesman quits.
- Just what does Julian Assange want?
- Bradley Manning Defence Fund Status (Dec 2010)
- WikiLeaks’ Cash Pledge Hasn’t Reached Bradley Manning’s Support Fund.
- Are Wikileaks Activists Finally Realizing Their Founder Is a Megalomaniac?
- Rape charges are the last straw for some organizers of WikiLeaks, who are demanding that Julian Assange, the website’s controversial point man, step aside.
- WikiLeaks advisory board ‘pretty clearly window-dressing’
- Wikileaks Founder Thinks Everyone’s Out to Get Him: Don’t Buy It.
- WikiLeaks Spokesman Quits - Daniel Domscheit-Berg interview with SPIEGEL.
- Why is WikiLeaks employing a well-known Holocaust denier and his disgraced son?
- Holocaust-denying creep works with Wikileaks, originated CIA-rape-honeypot rumor
- Why I Don’t Trust Julian Assange - By renowned open-government activist and Director of Sunlight Labs Clay Johnson.
- Interview with Assange in 2009 where he praises News Of The World’s hacking operations and calls The Guardian “anti-proletariat”.
- Rights Groups Join Criticism of WikiLeaks.
- Former WL staffer James Ball tells how dismay mounted during his three months with the whistleblowing group.